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Which of the three services looks fittest and most ready for war?

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    Anonymous30 April 2013 at 06:53

    ofcourse... the Admiral...

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    Maj Yashvardhan Naudiyal30 April 2013 at 06:54

    None...

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    Abhishek Shrivastava30 April 2013 at 08:00

    Indian Navy, and thats only due to its attitude of accepting and promoting indigenous content.

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    Anonymous30 April 2013 at 08:26

    LOL!! Biting sarcasm sir, it seems Navy with both AF and IA running neck to neck or belly 2 belly.

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    Anonymous30 April 2013 at 08:32

    Coast guard!!!

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    Vikash Kumar30 April 2013 at 09:06

    Indian Navy

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    Makesh.T.30 April 2013 at 09:35

    IAF followed by the IN followed by the IA. The face look seems to be equally proportional to the man & material each force is equipped with. The MoD is equally to be blamed for this !!!

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    Jayant30 April 2013 at 09:37

    The Indian Navy :)

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    sudeep30 April 2013 at 10:19

    Admiral > Air Marshall > General.

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    Iceman30 April 2013 at 10:46

    the good admiral of course. I have seen from the last 20 years that in general the Admirals and the Marshals are the fittest compared to the Generals. I think it has to do with the culture of these institutions.

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    Anonymous30 April 2013 at 10:58

    A.K.Browne. IAF Chief.

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    Anonymous30 April 2013 at 11:19

    None of them.

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    Anonymous30 April 2013 at 12:16

    Good Joke they will not be required for the actual fight its their desision that will make the difference.

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    lspk30 April 2013 at 13:51

    navy

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    Mazo30 April 2013 at 15:15

    Fittest would be the Naval chief.

    I imagine all three of them are ready for war regardless of their individual physical fitness. But they need to be in MUCH MUCH better physical condition.

    An excellent Ted Talk by Gen. Mark Hertling, Commander of US Seventh Army in Europe about obesity in the US Army and the "costs" of a fast food/technologically dependent society.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWN13pKVp9s

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    Anonymous30 April 2013 at 15:43

    Going by words.....the Navy (prepared to defend our interest in Vietnam), going by dedication to the nation (indiginus efforts)....the Navy, going by the looks of the chiefs ...,the Navy.

    Time to do more then talk you three, time to start getting more aggressive and ready to flash some steel....as u say "we are prepared for all contingencies"
    Thxs Pritesh from Sydney



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    nikhil30 April 2013 at 18:20

    navy

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    Anonymous30 April 2013 at 18:33

    Certainly the navy. It needs to speed up the IAC and Arihant programs.

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    Anonymous30 April 2013 at 21:50

    no prizes ???????

    Navy......Army..............and, the guy we need the most.....airforce..........is last.....

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    Anonymous30 April 2013 at 22:07

    This you can make out from these snaps? How? Enlighten please . Or is this jlt.

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    Anonymous30 April 2013 at 23:05

    INDIAN MEDIA!

    i can think of no other service that can be more fit and ready for war other than our MEDIA and super cool 'JOURNALISTS'.

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    Vishal30 April 2013 at 23:32

    The Indian Navy, without any doubt.

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    Col Ashwani30 April 2013 at 23:49

    Shameful heading. The depths of yellow journalism. Not at all the standard of an ex-army man.

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    Broadsword1 May 2013 at 00:03

    @ Col Ashwani

    You don't think the country needs an explanation when its fighting men start looking unfit and overweight?

    Actually, would love to see a photo of yours. Side profile preferably.

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    Broadsword1 May 2013 at 00:05

    Got to say that I agree with the majority opinion. If I were to be joined by these three gents for a jog in the morning, I'd be really surprised if anyone except for Admiral Joshi would be able to keep up... :-(

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    Unknown1 May 2013 at 00:23

    i am sure all three service can able to well protect our boundaries and interest if war broken out. Incursions should be deal through diplomatic move rather than military one. Since strong diplomatic move only can bring mutual trust and permanent peace along the border than any other force. This the lesson historic and two world wars taught to us.

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    Anonymous1 May 2013 at 00:31

    Theres always room for humor...

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    Anonymous1 May 2013 at 01:07

    What a joke? I bet they're fit enough to run for their plate of ladoods,pakoras &samosa,nothing else. It show that spending nations meagre money on defence of the mother land and it's founding wanting. Chinese ,Pakistanis and other minor countries are taking bites out of the country!

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    Anonymous1 May 2013 at 03:12

    i think unfit & fat capts , majors & colonels are a more reason for more worry than unfit generals or admirals..the way indian officers look once they hit the rank of major..is really shamefull..

    & sir , now that u have diverted our attentions to such a topic..i'll like to ask u the reason for this..do these officers not exercise in their units ??
    what is the daily PT routine in an IA unit..how can so many of them start to slack of..is this because of a loose grip from the CO ??

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    Anonymous1 May 2013 at 03:51

    I really find it immature of you to say that only one of them can defeat me. Be a bit modest and if you are such a fine athlete try and run against Lt Gen Panag.

    Also every1 questioning their fitness, chiefs are meant to plan and direct not fight try and google Leon Panetta the former CIA chief who helped nab Osama and you will get my point.

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    Rohit1 May 2013 at 07:23

    At their seniority level a slight bulge in belly is acceptable. They are not expected to be as fit as a young Captain or Major. At their level it is the fitness of mind which matters.

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    Anonymous1 May 2013 at 08:05

    School Girls from Indian Scouts will do the job better than these morons.

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    Col Ashwani1 May 2013 at 17:47

    @ Broadsword

    Would love to send you my photograph - side or whatever profile you prefer, but am still under orders and as if now can't.

    As regards my own fitness levels, ran the last PPT and BPET in the month of Jan 13 in 'Ex'. So shut up in this case.

    The nation also needs an explanation for your atrocious ideas on the fighting capability of the three services, are you going to oblige us? And if you are so concerned, why the hell did you quit? Coward!

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    Rahul(Kolkata)1 May 2013 at 21:52

    Doesn't matter Ajai who looks the fittest....All three of them will have to act as one and throw these garbages out of our territory....

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    Anonymous2 May 2013 at 02:52

    Being a layman, I have never heard of a General leading a platoon in war. So this question is pointless. As far as their mental preparedness is concerned, only the time will tell. If at all physical fitness is concerned one need to check the Cap, Maj and Col's fitness.

    @AjaiShukla.. this being your blog you can mock me if I am at odds

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    Anonymous2 May 2013 at 03:35

    The cavalry cad at it again...conceited about ur own "superfitness" ? Look towards Bhopal and ask hu is fit ? HAHHAHAHAHHA

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    Anonymous2 May 2013 at 04:33

    I used to cringe when my father used to point out pot bellied officers & men outside the Sena Bhavan/ South block.

    Definitely mostly unfit....

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    Anonymous2 May 2013 at 05:17

    OH, I understood the PJ after reading comments of the Broadsword Shukla...

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    Anonymous2 May 2013 at 07:02

    Navy

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    Chinese-Indian Ajay2 May 2013 at 07:41

    All you need is a "Vibrating Fat Removing Machine" and perhaps all the three can begin to show the six-pack.

    Navy has "honed" their "belly" from the looks of the photo.

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    Anonymous2 May 2013 at 09:52

    this is the problem with IA ..they are not public friendly..they want the best human material but they are(including experienced ex officers like u) ignorant of public demands or even simple ans to questions..
    you simply cant find simple info like PT routines in indian units..
    sir it's regretable that u raise an issue but then don't correspond with commentors..
    i am anon at 15:42 1 may..& i just raised a simple ques..

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    Broadsword3 May 2013 at 04:48

    @ Col Ashwini

    Yeah, everyone who posts on any blog is super fit. Easy to say it on a blog, especially when nobody knows who the hell you are.

    In contrast, my statements about anything that I do or did can be verified from multiple sources. All you need to do is ask someone of my seniority!

    As for "coward"! Funny, funny. I'd say a coward is someone who fights anonymously on a blog. Someone who doesn't have the guts to show his (her?) face. And who cites "service rules" to hide his (undoubtedly flabby) self.

    Btw, didn't you know that posting on a blog is also against the rules?

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    stryker3 May 2013 at 07:12

    These pictures are very kind to the COAS -they are front on and he has the benefit of a dark coloured uniform.

    The role of a Chief is more of a leadership one and here in the area of physical fitness they must also lead by example -there is nothing so off putting to a martial image of a General officer.
    than a protruding belly.

    I would hazard a guess that with the pyramidal structure at any rank above Lt Colonel there are more guys who aint going further than those that do. That is when a guy tends to lose the motivation on a lot of things including fitness.

    Take a look at any Sainik Samachar issue and you will see pics of visiting Army Commanders being introduced to a line up of local corps/div/area staff officers -with many in the lineups looking very unsoldierly. A closer look at the faces will reveal again many of them are those passed over and serving out time.

    Fitness,immaculate posture and turnout are drilled into an officer in the NDA/IMA but somehow once an officer leaves his regiment (where willy nilly exercise is mandatory),the onus of physical fitness shifts to the officer.And the results are there for all to see.

    So whats the solution? -instead of making a "jai hind" mandatory, why not make it compulsory for all officers who are not with their regiments to do an hours structured aerobics/cardio every morning 6 to 7am. Somethings on the line of the Japs who do a half hour of calisthenics before commencing work.Make sure the Army Physical Corps has a presence in every station and administers this daily workout for officers - there is no shortage of place/facility for exercise in any Army station.

    But who will bell the cat for us to see a more fitter officer cadre?

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    Anonymous3 May 2013 at 09:29

    The Chief of Air Force. N.A.K. Browne will kick Chinese ass any given day.

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    Anonymous3 May 2013 at 14:33

    Pretty low standard of journalism...I would rather have pot-bellied winston churchill heading my army rather than egoistic and fit journalist.




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    Harbhan3 May 2013 at 23:54

    The coward has left the challange and adventure of the forces to seek the comfy greener pastures of dishonest journalism and has made it a business out of mocking and taunting those brave soldiers. First you were hounding the truly great son of the soil Gen.V.K Singh and now you are seeking out others like a malignat cancer. I am glad the army is rid of cowards like you. Good luck with your treadmill.

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    Harbhan4 May 2013 at 00:01

    If you are better than the chiefs why dont you take your fit posterior and take on the PLA Army yourself rather than pass value judgements on those who are actually doing it. Obviously you are jealous you could never make it to General rank and venting your jealousy from your comfy cushy office.

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    Broadsword5 May 2013 at 00:24

    @ Harbhan

    I left the "challenge and adventure of the forces" to the comfy pastures of journalism. Funny, funny!

    It's probably a waste of time for me to try and educate a half-wit like you, but for the sake of others who visit the blog, let me explain why your argument is so fake.

    The "challenge and adventure" of military life exists only up to the time that you finish soldiering, i.e. command of your unit. And that I did.

    After that, it is sahib-giri. For too many senior officers (though definitely not all), it is a rat-race in which the men in the field are forgotten as they race to climb the greased bamboo pole of promotion. I chose not to be a part of that.

    As for your observation that I have a cushy life, you must be blind, ignorant or both. I spend more time on travel, tours and reporting from tough areas, even war zones, where I don't enjoy the facilities and backup support that officers of the Indian Army do. So, in essence, after 22 years of soldiering, I quit the staff stream and chose to go back to war zone journalism. My first assignment was four months on the front-lines during the Afghanistan war in 2001.

    As for your rant that I am jealous that I "could never make it to General rank"... you again display your ignorance of military matters. I quit when I was still flying high... and might well have made it to general had I stayed on. Since I didn't, this will never be tested. But I wasn't superseded so I might well have become a general.

    Anyway, your post makes it clear that you are a chamcha of General VK Singh. So, in many people's eyes, you are discredited anyway.

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    Broadsword5 May 2013 at 00:30

    @ Harbhan

    But this post is not about your ranting. It is about the need for all officers, from the service chiefs down, to be fit and to look dangerous and to actually be so.

    Sadly, too many officers let themselves go and start looking like lalas. And, since the generals are themselves unfit, who's going to crack the whip?

    Btw, when I was commandant of an armoured regiment in 2000-01, I was amongst the physically fittest colonels in the army. I may even have been THE fittest. And this is something that I and my regiment took pride in.

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    Anonymous5 May 2013 at 05:59

    Sir,

    You have an unbelievable patience and a superhuman capacity to read and respond to such insulting rants by morons. A rare quality for a soldier, for someone who is trained not to take any shit !
    Amazing.

    Your Fan.

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    Hari9 May 2013 at 06:44

    I dont understand. I mean all they have to do is get up and go exercise. Its is not like they have a second job or something.

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