The Defence Ministry announcement of INS Satpura's commissioning is pasted below for your information.
Guided-missile frigate
Displacement: 6200 tons
Length: 142.5 metres (468 ft)
Beam: 16.9 metres (55 ft)
Propulsion: 2 x Pielstick 16 PA6 STC Diesel engines & 2 x GE LM2500+ boost turbines in CODOG configuration
Speed: 32 knots (59 km/h), 22 knots (41 km/h) (with Diesel Engines)
Complement: 257 (35 officers)
Sensors and processing systems:
1 x MR-760 Fregat M2EM 3-D radar
4 x MR-90 Orekh radar1 x EL/M 2238 STAR2 x EL/M 2221 STGR1 x BEL APARNAHUMSA (Hull Mounted Sonar Array)ATAS/Thales Sintra towed array systemsElectronic warfare and decoys: BEL Ajanta electronic warfare suite
Armament:
OTO Melara 76mm SRGM
2 x AK-630 30mm guns32 x Barak SAM9M317 (SA-N-12) SAM, total of 24 missiles8 x Klub cruise Missiles90R missiles (ASW)DTA-53-956 torpedoesKlub AS Missile2x RBU-6000 (RPK-8)Aircraft carried: 2 x HAL Dhruv or Sea King Mk.
why does it look like its going to fall apart
ReplyDeleteIs India capable of engineering CODAG type of propulsion ?? INS Satpura is CODOG
ReplyDeleteCongratulations to all involved.
ReplyDeletePlease update why Kaveri Marine engines can not power such Frigates.
Please enlighten us with a comparison with similar class of Frigates.
How come the Brahmos missile hasn't been added to these destroyers ?
ReplyDeleteHoly cow.. where is brahmos?
ReplyDeleteThe finish is quite poor. it doesn't look like a new frigate!!! I am Desi jingo only..i expect them to shine and the same time perform.
ReplyDeleteFine ship but the SA-N-12 is kind of outdated, the russians have a new system called Redut replacing it.
ReplyDeleteDidn't see any Brahmos missiles in its inventory?
ReplyDeleteWell, finish looks ok to me. If i am not wrong, pic is old and from sea trials. The ship must have seen lot of finishing work after completion. Ship on ID won't look like it is now.
ReplyDelete@ Nemo
Man INS Satpura is a FRIGATE not destroyer. FRIGATEs are mainly a anti-submarine ships which protects BGs from enemy submarines in addition to limited airdefence.
Pal, this pics must have be taken during her sea trials... Wait till 20th August and see how she is....
ReplyDeleteAre Brahmos too big for it.
ReplyDeleteCongrats to all concerned.
if russians are advertising it now, that means another 4 years of indian funding before it is ready
ReplyDeletewhy still using klub instead of brahmos ?
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ReplyDeleteShivalik class frigates are 6200 tons and Kolkata class destroyers are 7600 tons.
Assuming that next generation frigates will be even bigger, question how much bigger frigates do we need considering the fact that these frigates may well be near destroyers by tonnage, but less powerful than destroyers.
Thanks
Joydeep Ghosh
Why do all of you seem to expect that the Satpura will be fitted with the Brahmos VLS? The Shivalik had Klub missiles... and so will all the Project 17 frigates.
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I'll be visiting MDL next month, so I'll ask them to do a stainless steel frigate... I'm sure that'll make you feel good.
@Chaudhuri
Kaveri Marine gas turbines are not yet cleared for fitment into warships.
@Rahul
Frigates are not anti-submarine platforms. They are expected to have all-round capability today.
@Joydeep
I don't understand why Gen-Next frigates are going to be bigger? Please explain.
@broadsword, it is great when you answer technical queries like you have just done above.
ReplyDeleteI have one question too though not very technical. Helideck/chopper takes a lot of space on the ship. Considering that their main role is recon, target surveilance/vectoring, would not it have been more feasible to use a drone that could do the same job and take less space?
You might say how will it take off, but the nishant type launcher cannot be that hard to replicate on a big ship.
@Ajai
ReplyDeletethis has been the trend, Nilgiri were 2600 ton plus then Godavari were 3600 ton plus then Bramhaputra were 3800 ton plus then Talwars tip[ped the scale at 4000+ ton and now Shivalik are a huge 5600 tons.
this is why i asked as per the trend the next frigates will be bigger and may tip the scale near the delhi class destroyers.
so the question remain the same how much heavier frigates can go since the only major difference between the new age frigates and destroyers is thw Brahmos VLS battery.
thanks
Joydeep Ghosh
@Anonymous 16:37
ReplyDeleteWe're a long way off from being able to replace a manned platform with a UAV. Recce is just one of the tasks that a UAV does.
How much use is a UAV, for example, when you have a man overboard?
@Joydeep
The difference between a frigate and a destroyer is not just the Brahmos! That is only the case if you believe that a battleship is merely a floating collection of weapons. There are many additional features that a battleship has, which a frigate does not incorporate.
But there is no indication at present that the Project 17A class will be bigger than the Shivalik class.
Broadsword, Thank you for your answer @22:16.
ReplyDeleteIf it is only for rescue it might take a lot less time to go out to him in a speed boat, rather than start a chopper and hover over him. Besides would not choppers require extra storage on the ship for emergency spare parts. Drones may also be less high maintenance.
I agree we are far away from such technology but I just thought it was worth to put the idea out there.
I wonder if it should be called a stealth frigate - "stealthish" perhaps but not stealth. Compare with the La Fayette class and you'll see what I mean. Lots of paraphernalia hanging about - too much.
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ReplyDeleteI wonder if it should be called a stealth frigate - "stealthish" perhaps but not stealth. Compare with the La Fayette class and you'll see what I mean.
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indeed. also india has the tech to evaluate a design for its RCS but is not capable of designing and building even a naval gun (the oto melara)?